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	<title>Comments on: What is weighted average anti-dilution protection?</title>
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		<title>By: kp</title>
		<link>http://www.startupcompanylawyer.com/2007/08/04/what-is-weighted-average-anti-dilution-protection/comment-page-1/#comment-3370</link>
		<dc:creator>kp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 00:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick question re: treatment of convertible notes.  Let&#039;s say a company is about to close its C round at $1 per share.  But it already raised $2M in convertible notes.  Where in the broad-based version of the formula above would the convert notes show?  Would it be included in Common Outstanding pre-deal and, if yes, at what conversion price?  I assumed that since it is a weighted-average calc, the convertible notes would show up only in Common Issued in Deal and Common Issuable in Deal at old Conversion Price.  &lt;br&gt;Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick question re: treatment of convertible notes.  Let&#39;s say a company is about to close its C round at $1 per share.  But it already raised $2M in convertible notes.  Where in the broad-based version of the formula above would the convert notes show?  Would it be included in Common Outstanding pre-deal and, if yes, at what conversion price?  I assumed that since it is a weighted-average calc, the convertible notes would show up only in Common Issued in Deal and Common Issuable in Deal at old Conversion Price.  <br />Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: rhoneyman</title>
		<link>http://www.startupcompanylawyer.com/2007/08/04/what-is-weighted-average-anti-dilution-protection/comment-page-1/#comment-3351</link>
		<dc:creator>rhoneyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 01:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think you&#039;ve described full ratchet anti-diution.  in that case, the price for a round is adjusted to ensure that an investor&#039;s calculated value at the time of the down-round is kept equal to the amount that investor put into the company.  it&#039;s an approach that makes little sense.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;with broad-based weighted average, the formula provides some compensation to earlier investors for having involved themselves in a project that for whatever reason failed to maintain value, let alone build value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think you&#39;ve described full ratchet anti-diution.  in that case, the price for a round is adjusted to ensure that an investor&#39;s calculated value at the time of the down-round is kept equal to the amount that investor put into the company.  it&#39;s an approach that makes little sense.</p>
<p>with broad-based weighted average, the formula provides some compensation to earlier investors for having involved themselves in a project that for whatever reason failed to maintain value, let alone build value.</p>
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		<title>By: Mallika</title>
		<link>http://www.startupcompanylawyer.com/2007/08/04/what-is-weighted-average-anti-dilution-protection/comment-page-1/#comment-3344</link>
		<dc:creator>Mallika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 02:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you - much better than Tom Taulli&#039;s problematic examples here:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.businessweek.com/smallbiz/content/jan2009/sb20090123_008974.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.businessweek.com/sm...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you &#8211; much better than Tom Taulli&#39;s problematic examples here:<br /><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/smallbiz/content/jan2009/sb20090123_008974.htm" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/sm.." rel="nofollow">http://www.businessweek.com/sm..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jing</title>
		<link>http://www.startupcompanylawyer.com/2007/08/04/what-is-weighted-average-anti-dilution-protection/comment-page-1/#comment-3304</link>
		<dc:creator>Jing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 23:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what I think the Broad-based weighted average formula come from: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Company value with new money = Shares post financing at new price * new price= shares calculated as if new money were invested at old price * old price; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Therefore: &lt;br&gt;New price= old price * (outstanding shares + new money/old price) / shares post financing at new price&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you agree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what I think the Broad-based weighted average formula come from: </p>
<p>Company value with new money = Shares post financing at new price * new price= shares calculated as if new money were invested at old price * old price; </p>
<p>Therefore: <br />New price= old price * (outstanding shares + new money/old price) / shares post financing at new price</p>
<p>Do you agree?</p>
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		<title>By: Yokum</title>
		<link>http://www.startupcompanylawyer.com/2007/08/04/what-is-weighted-average-anti-dilution-protection/comment-page-1/#comment-2970</link>
		<dc:creator>Yokum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.  Different concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.  Different concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Yokum</title>
		<link>http://www.startupcompanylawyer.com/2007/08/04/what-is-weighted-average-anti-dilution-protection/comment-page-1/#comment-1259</link>
		<dc:creator>Yokum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.  Different concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.  Different concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Grybko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Grybko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this something I would use to figure out the rate of return on net proceeds so that no dilution of earnings per share occurs? I&#039;m working on a problem which asked me to compute the potential dilution of new stock issue, as well as computing the net proceeds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this something I would use to figure out the rate of return on net proceeds so that no dilution of earnings per share occurs? I&#39;m working on a problem which asked me to compute the potential dilution of new stock issue, as well as computing the net proceeds.</p>
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		<title>By: Yokum</title>
		<link>http://www.startupcompanylawyer.com/2007/08/04/what-is-weighted-average-anti-dilution-protection/comment-page-1/#comment-956</link>
		<dc:creator>Yokum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike - Anti-dilution clauses are actually relevant and triggered from time to time (as opposed to demand registration rights or redemption rights, which I have never seen used).  I think that a protective provision by itself probably isn&#039;t enough to protect a preferred investor.  If the company does not get a subsequent down-round financing completed, the company may dissolve. If there are new investors in the down-round financing, the existing preferred investors have to choose between (i) rejecting the financing and dissolving the company, and (ii) accepting a dilutive financing. In most cases, the existing preferred investors have no choice but to accept the dilutive financing.  If there are anti-dilution provisions, the existing preferred investors can accept the down-round financing and push the effect of the dilution to common shareholders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike &#8211; Anti-dilution clauses are actually relevant and triggered from time to time (as opposed to demand registration rights or redemption rights, which I have never seen used).  I think that a protective provision by itself probably isn&#8217;t enough to protect a preferred investor.  If the company does not get a subsequent down-round financing completed, the company may dissolve. If there are new investors in the down-round financing, the existing preferred investors have to choose between (i) rejecting the financing and dissolving the company, and (ii) accepting a dilutive financing. In most cases, the existing preferred investors have no choice but to accept the dilutive financing.  If there are anti-dilution provisions, the existing preferred investors can accept the down-round financing and push the effect of the dilution to common shareholders.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.startupcompanylawyer.com/2007/08/04/what-is-weighted-average-anti-dilution-protection/comment-page-1/#comment-954</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yokum,

I would appreciate your thoughts on something that has always bugged me about this.  

Given that any subsequent rounds of equity financing will demand to come in as senior to the existing preferred, and that the existing preferred will uniformly have veto rights over the creation of any senior class of preferred, why are all of these elaborate anti-dilution provisions necessary?  Would the venture world be any different if all these anti-dilution provisions went away and the preferrreds simply retained their veto over the creation of any senior classes?  Another way of asking this question:  have you ever seen these provisions actually triggered?

Thanks for your very informative site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yokum,</p>
<p>I would appreciate your thoughts on something that has always bugged me about this.  </p>
<p>Given that any subsequent rounds of equity financing will demand to come in as senior to the existing preferred, and that the existing preferred will uniformly have veto rights over the creation of any senior class of preferred, why are all of these elaborate anti-dilution provisions necessary?  Would the venture world be any different if all these anti-dilution provisions went away and the preferrreds simply retained their veto over the creation of any senior classes?  Another way of asking this question:  have you ever seen these provisions actually triggered?</p>
<p>Thanks for your very informative site.</p>
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		<title>By: Yokum</title>
		<link>http://www.startupcompanylawyer.com/2007/08/04/what-is-weighted-average-anti-dilution-protection/comment-page-1/#comment-376</link>
		<dc:creator>Yokum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 04:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The purpose of preferred stock anti-dilution adjustment is NOT to maintain a specific absolute ownership percentage.  It is simply to give the investor the benefit (via a conversion adjustment) of issuances of stock at lower prices in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The purpose of preferred stock anti-dilution adjustment is NOT to maintain a specific absolute ownership percentage.  It is simply to give the investor the benefit (via a conversion adjustment) of issuances of stock at lower prices in the future.</p>
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